Some say people are sometimes born into the wrong body for their spiritual Gender. Does this mean they have lived before and switched gender through biological accident of re-incarnation. The Native Americans had a tribally accepted term for this. Two spirit, or Berdache“. The two spirit member of the tribe was known as a person with two spirits inside of them. One male. One female. If Native American culture had not been overshadowed by the imperialist U.S.A. then there would be widely accepted wisdom about the transexual. After all, it is difficult , when you feel your body changing, and your spirit shifting, to know how to express your sudden explosion of intersexed feelings. Many people remain shamefaced and in denial, undercover from a society they know does not accept them. This is tragic. It could, like everything have once been different, if not for the great mistakes of patriachal brutality. Such as the ten or so centuries where they burned nine million European women to death at the stake, in the name of christianity. Sometimes for doing little more than owning ointment. If youve ever rubbed body lotion on your lover, then you know, how would you feel if madmen burst through the door and promised you a painful death in the name of the father and son. Imagine how painful that is. When you singe yourself on a fire, the smarting pain makes you withdraw with a sharp reaction. But they couldnt withdraw. They were bound there, in ropes. Nine million of them. They don“t tell you that in church.
Condemnation of ignorant cultures is, on the flipside, accepted celebration of so called heathen or savage cultures. We live in a shitty world. What do you think`?
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Finn
  • yeah European colonialism isn't always a good thing. I sometimes wonder what central/south american and other western Latin cultures would be like if the Spanish hadn't ever arrived.

    I read an excellent essay on Two spirited people and how you can't call native people who are two spirited, trans-sexual or trans gendered or consider them to be trans-sexual or transgendered either since they're two spirited, not transgendered or trans sexual which are both modern westernized terms from the 20th century.
    • Im with you on that Finn.I dont have much more I can add.Its just painfully true.
      I think things are going to change for the better at some point soon.
      A change of conciousness overall. The ones that are already awakening to it and opening their minds are going to be ahead and teaching.
      • Unsu...
         
        I figure that we are all male and female and that is what makes us whole. So there is no division and the idea of male and female is simply an error. To Become polarised is to lose ones objectivity and then begins the fall into vanity and materialism. Greed is a device of the lowest and the most confused and it is being propagated by the servants of error.
        • "...So there is no division and the idea of male and female is simply an error...".

          I usually urge caution & care where I hear these statements. This line of thinking ("there really is no such thing as 'gender'--- it's all made up") can be just as oppressive, wrong, narrow, and disrespectful as its opposite line of thinking ("people are either male or female, period, there is nothing in between"). I am a transsexual. I honor "two-spirit" feelings and experience. I understand that it's real, and to a great extent, I identify with a lot of it. I have no problem believing people when they say they feel gender non-specific, androgynous, "both", "neither", etc. But MY gender always was, is, and probably always will be "male". That is not made up, constructed by "society", it is not an "idea", an abstract notion, a concept I "subscribe" to, etc------ any more than gravity will cease to exist as a reality if I wear a tee-shirt that says "Free Yourself From Your Oppressive Belief In Gravity-- You Can Fly If You Want To".

          You may want to read Max Valerio's book "The Testosterone Files". He takes on some of the new [fashionable] myths about how all gender is socially constructed.
          • Unsu...
             
            Hi transfag1,

            I think you may have misunderstood where I'm coming from. No one is going to deny that the vast majority of mankind are physiologically male or female. There is also a small percentage of the global population that are intersexed and an even smaller percentage that are hermaphrodites (pseudo or asymmetrical).

            The point I was trying to make was that the 'roles' of male and female are contrived in a purely divisive way. These archetypal 'roles' have been eroded away to a small extent in recent years but the archetypes still persist. The idea that a very feminine male is not a man or a very masculine female is not a women is simply the result of our programming. The diversity of human sexuality as well as the freedom to express your love to anybody has always be suppressed by society. This subject is complex and has much to do with how people have been controlled and manipulated throughout history.

            So all I'm saying is that human sexuality isn't black and white but rather a rainbow of diversity. I often suggest that people take a look at my Androgyne tribes photo gallery as often pictures convey ideas better than words: tribes.tribe.net/androgyne/photos
  • Today we are far more likely to be invited to a BBQ than to be burned at the stake. Perhaps one our greatest challenges in being misunderstood arises from the strong interest in transsexualism (opposed to being just, plain, glued to the center)!

    The berdache were generally considered leaders and healers among their people. The empathy and compassion that we experience for others can become overwhelming. Perhaps it is time to pay homage to our native ancestors and teach. The Western world is largely in a state of awakening. For a change, the lions are winning.

    Sarah